tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3741435186739357719.post8921689692298979647..comments2020-12-23T04:13:58.125-05:00Comments on El Jacone's Comic Book Bunker: You Know What Bugs Me?Lukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3741435186739357719.post-52865537205326164042008-03-18T19:53:00.000-04:002008-03-18T19:53:00.000-04:00Yeah, I came to realize over time that Superman re...Yeah, I came to realize over time that Superman really is problematic in a shared universe, because he must come out clearly on top in every story, or else it isn't true to the character. Superman is not about frailty, although the 50's proved tragedy is okay. I relish instances of Superman getting his ass handed to him, but only in non-Superman books. Otherwise, you're betraying the character and his fans.<BR/><BR/>Also, quick reminder, the Superman/Batman fight was faked in "New Frontier." They were both in on the scam, perpetrated against the overbearing government.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3741435186739357719.post-81887257333177109682008-03-12T19:30:00.000-04:002008-03-12T19:30:00.000-04:00ironically, it seems to me the 2 most famous supes...ironically, it seems to me the 2 most famous supes vs batman battles--Dark Knight and in the recent New Frontier special--are the two scenarios most "believable", because both times Supes is vastly underestimating Bats.<BR/><BR/>but any Supes vs Bats fights taking place in the regular DCU? sorry, Bats, Supes is microwaving your insides from 1,000 miles up.rob!https://www.blogger.com/profile/17556471244882205031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3741435186739357719.post-59175108081699407042008-03-12T19:16:00.000-04:002008-03-12T19:16:00.000-04:00Frank -- My appreciation of Batman is pretty much ...Frank -- My appreciation of Batman is pretty much limited to the animated form. What can I say, I really dig <I>B:TAS</I>. <B>BATO</B> doesn't really count. I really liked Superman when I was in Junior High and into High School (read: 1992-1995 or so), but since then my interest in the 4 color adventures of the character has waxed and waned, with the exception of the soon-to-be-concluded Busiek run over in his junior title, and <B>All-Star</B>, which is pretty darn cool. It seems like a lot of writers aren't content to write Superman as Superman, but instead need to examine his frailties and faults in order to make a deeper point. A point which, frankly, I don't want in my Superman stories. Big Blue was published for decades without being relevant to anything other than science adventures and being a dick to Lois and Jimmy. Why does he constantly need to be in a state of deconstruction? <BR/><BR/>And I share your opinion about the Amazon Ace. I had little-to-no interest in the character outside of Lynda Carter for years and years. When she showed up in <I>Justice League</I>, I was drawn to her because she got a lot of spotlight early on, and I knew the least about her. But when she showed up in, believe it or not, <B>Countdown to Infinite Crisis</B>, and Blue Beetle gave his rundown of her, that was when I started really liking her. Go figure.<BR/><BR/>Rick -- I cannot think of a single story off the top of my head where Bats and Supes duked it out and Superman came out on top. Not one. I personally prefer the old <B>World's Finest</B> mentality, the "old chum" camraderie between them, but I can accept the "uneasy alliance" aspect as well. I think that a lot of modern superhero writers push Batman over Supes in part for their own fandom leanings, but also in part to avoid the ever-dreaded "obvious" and the resultant nerd-rage backlash. Sometimes the obvious thing to do is the right thing to do, but you wouldn't know that nowadays.Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352646370918575626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3741435186739357719.post-59160879942503001862008-03-11T05:21:00.000-04:002008-03-11T05:21:00.000-04:00LukeI admit I know Superman can defeat Batman but ...Luke<BR/>I admit I know Superman can defeat Batman but I don't recall it happening. When did that take place? I never understood why or when Batman over took Superman in popularity. When I was a kid and this was during Batmania in the 60's, Superman was the biggest character in comics.Rick L. Phillipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05447083825248853313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3741435186739357719.post-3143114579876242462008-03-10T23:13:00.000-04:002008-03-10T23:13:00.000-04:00I've had a similar post in mind for the Idol-Head ...I've had a similar post in mind for the Idol-Head that's been percolating in the back of my mind for years that I'll have to post soon. Suffice to say, ditto. Difference being, ever since the 90's my feelings toward Superman and Batman run the gamut from grudging appreciation to outright hatred. They're both douchebags who need as ass-whuppin' or six from Wonder Woman.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.com